James Webb Space Telescope finds galaxies pointing toward a dark matter alternative
"The bottom line is, 'I told you so.'"
A group of astronomers analyzing data from the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) say some of the oldest galaxies in our universe appear much larger and brighter than expected, suggesting they formed early and grew rapidly — potentially without the influence of dark matter.
According to the researchers, the findings provide new clues that point toward an alternative to dark matter known as modified Newtonian dynamics, or MOND.
"The expectation was that every big galaxy we see in the nearby universe would have started from these itty-bitty pieces," Stacy McGaugh, who is an astrophysicist at the Case Western Reserve University in Ohio, said in a statement. "What the theory of dark matter predicted is not what we see."
The gradual hierarchical evolution of galaxies, which is thought to be driven by cold dark matter and is a crucial component of the standard cosmological model of our universe, is widely accepted because it explains the diverse shapes and sizes of galaxies sprinkled across the cosmos.
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Yet, the JWST has not yet spotted the dim signals expected to emanate from those small, primitive fragments of galaxies in the early universe, McGaugh and his colleagues say. Instead, the telescope's data shows early galaxies were larger and brighter than anticipated, even as the team looked further back in time. The researchers argue that these galaxies grew too big, too quickly — well ahead of expectations set by conventional cold dark matter models.
This rapid growth, however, precisely aligns with the 26-year-old predictions of MOND.
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"The bottom line is, 'I told you so,'" McGaugh said in the statement. "I was raised to think that saying that was rude, but that's the whole point of the scientific method: Make predictions and then check which come true."
Some of the excessively bright sources the JWST recorded could be active supermassive black holes instead of galaxies, the researchers note, but that "does not really help anyway, as it simply turns the problem of too many early stars into one of too many early supermassive black holes."
MOND, which posits that, when it becomes extremely weak, gravity behaves differently from the way Isaac Newton predicted it would. An example of such weakness is at the edges of galaxies. The concept was proposed by Israeli physicist Mordehai Milgrom in 1982 as a way to explain faster-than-expected rotation of galaxies without invoking dark matter or dark energy.
Although MOND has had some success, however, it has quite a few critics. Astronomers find it challenging to integrate the idea into a unifying framework that can explain a wide range of cosmological observations. In contrast, the dark matter paradigm fits many observations but doesn't fully explain phenomena predicted by MOND.
"We find ourselves caught between two very different theories that seem irreconcilable despite applying to closely related yet incommensurate lines of evidence," McGaugh and his colleagues wrote in their paper, which was published Tuesday (Nov. 12) in The Astrophysical Journal.
While MOND is not a widely-accepted theory in cosmology, the researchers are convinced it has made enough successful predictions that it cannot be a mere coincidence.
"It must be telling us something," they note in the paper. "What that is remains as mysterious as the composition of dark matter."
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orsobubu Independent researchers, said decades ago that mond is better than dark matter, but fails like other modified newtonian fields. So they solved mond's poor math with a reinterpretation of newton's constant G and mass M. But this is censored sistematically.Reply -
Starstruck Is it possible that the reason the stars appear to be moving at the wrong speeds is that the stars near the galactic core experience time at a different rate then on the galactic rim?Reply -
Ryan F. Mercer James Web didn't see what I expected it to see, therefor I'm right? That's a pretty thin thread.Reply -
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He's not so much saying he's right as that MOND is right.Ryan F. Mercer said:James Web didn't see what I expected it to see, therefor I'm right? That's a pretty thin thread. -
skynr13
Good possibility, but proving it may be difficult.Starstruck said:Is it possible that the reason the stars appear to be moving at the wrong speeds is that the stars near the galactic core experience time at a different rate then on the galactic rim? -
Torbjorn Larsson MOND is a non-starter which only a fringe obsesses over since it conflicts with relativity and was killed years ago by the very first multimessenger neutron binary merger:Reply
https://www.quantamagazine.org/troubled-times-for-alternatives-to-einsteins-theory-of-gravity-20180430/
Troubled Times for Alternatives to Einstein’s Theory of GravityNew observations of extreme astrophysical systems have “brutally and pitilessly murdered” attempts to replace Einstein’s general theory of relativity.
That early galaxies grew faster than galaxy models account for has been confirmed by robust results from slightly lower redshifts (z ~7-9 instead of z > 10):
https://scitechdaily.com/mystery-of-the-red-monsters-webb-finds-massive-early-galaxies-that-shouldnt-exist/
Challenge to Conventional Galaxy Formation TheoriesAccording to the prevailing scientific model, galaxies gradually form within vast halos of dark matter, which draw in gas (atoms and molecules) to form gravitationally bound structures. Typically, only about 20% of this gas converts into stars within galaxies. However, the new observations from UNIGE’s team, utilizing NASA's James Webb Telescope (JWST), question this view. The data indicate that massive galaxies in the early Universe may have formed stars at a much higher rate than later galaxies, growing far more rapidly than once thought.
Conveniently, the paper tests that the LCDM model is valid:
In this case, we do not find any galaxy with ϵ > 1, suggesting that our sample does not present significant tension with the Λ cold dark-matter model (ΛCDM, where Λ is the cosmological constant).
That adds to the SPT microwave background radiation polarization survey, that prefers LCDM, increases the tension with supernova higher Hubble rate estimates to over 5 sigma, and increases the rejection of an inverted neutrino mass hierarchy. https://phys.org/news/2024-11-latest-south-pole-telescope-bolster.html
If it is published in peer review, it obviously isn't censored. (And if it failed to pass that quality test, where is the problem!?) But it isn't very useful, especially if you add two unnecessary ad hoc parameters that LCDM and GR doesn't need.orsobubu said:Independent researchers, said decades ago that mond is better than dark matter, but fails like other modified newtonian fields. So they solved mond's poor math with a reinterpretation of newton's constant G and mass M. But this is censored sistematically.
I doubt that the notion would be compatible with relativity.
But that isn't about the presented research, is it? It sounds like a proposal that MOND - if it had been acceptable as relativistic physics - explains something e.g. dark matter does not. But dark matter is observed by many other methods than galaxy rotation curves, which it also predicts. Here we have instead that MOND additionally fails if galaxies do not contain much dark matter or much normal matter.Starstruck said:Is it possible that the reason the stars appear to be moving at the wrong speeds is that the stars near the galactic core experience time at a different rate then on the galactic rim?
Yes, gravitational time dilation can be measured by optical astronomy but it would be a very weak effect. That is why dark matter and general relativity predicts our observations, not merely general relativity.